Today I feel the need to talk and maybe do a little venting.
Ok well first off I must say, I have seen lots of comments on Sanbun's works. Personally I have no problem with his works because first and foremost its hentai, its not real and second I like his style and stories. I've seen a lot of comments where people say Sanbun should die or they would kill him and just really angry type of comments. If you don't like his works, don't read them. THIS IS HENTAI not real life, just fantasy. I understand that some people don't like ntr, and that's fine but do you really have to go and hate on the man for doing what he does? He works on a genre that is actually not as bad as some of the rape and extreme stuff out there. Have you seen osyter's works? His stuff is a million times worse and I don't see people saying, "This artist is bastard and should die" or stuff like that. It's almost as if people believe in his stories, but they can't seem to believe in any rape themes and just ignore it like it's nothing. If that's how people are, then those people are just sad. They should be the same way with Sanbun's works. And just to let you all know, the NTR genre is a minority compared to all the other stuff out there. I also find it funny that people get so emotional on his works. Just Wow.
Ok well that was just a bit of venting on that. Now next up only really applies to donors. First off I just wanna apologize to the donors because I know a lot of people are waiting for their stuff to get edited. It is my fault for taking on a lot of projects and again I'm sorry for the wait on them (some stuff I don't have the scripts for, so theres nothing I can do on that). Now, I'm going to give a very specifc option to donors, actually this only applies to donors who have fully donated to one project and is the only donor to a project. If you feel that you can't wait for it to get done or you just don't want me to edit anymore or you just dislike me for whatever reason then you can request for the script and take it to another person who will edit it for you for free or pay them to edit it for you. Again this only applies to projects that have only 1 contributor. Since I don't charge for my editing I don't have to worry about cash owed. The way I see it is I'm doing a service for you all, yes you have to agree to my terms but at the same time I don't wanna have people getting mad at me so then this is one way to deal with it. Unfortuntely on projects where there is mulitple donors, it won't work, unless you all agree you want someone else to do it, which would mean you would have to contact all the donors and ask them, and that's a hassle and can be problematic. So yeah if you have a problem just send me an email and let me know.
On a more brighter note, Tomorrow I'll be releasing the next chapter of Readiness and on sat you'll be seeing a special oneshot by Otsuka Kotora. Also for those asking for teacher and student I haven't heard anything from Yoshio, so I don't have the script yet and I'm not sure when I'll even get it. For Azure Sky, the next chapter will be sometime when I'm doing my next tank. Ohhh and here's a thought, for those who love Teacher and Student so much, why don't 1 of you fans get the script commissioned if you can't wait and love this story so much. That way you don't have to wait for Yoshio to do it. Of course that's just a suggestion for all you impatient people. Well that's all for now, feel free to drop a comment.
Enjoy.
Wednesday, November 18, 2009
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Hi Fayt, it's Oliver, passing by.
My comment isn't relevant to your current blog entry, I'll just say that I personally stay away from anything labelled as Sanbun Kyoden and I'm happier that way. I see no reason to waste time on something I won't like, indeed, why will some people still read it and rant afterwards is a mistery.
Now, the main point : I would very, very strongly, from the bottom of heart, recommend that you change to another blog template.
You're one of the few "talkative" hentai blogs out there, in which the talk is at least as much interesting as the porn.
BUT this is ruined by the poor template ! Plain white text on plain dark background, little text/chapter/typographic separations... AAARGH MY EYES MY EEEEYYYYYYEEEEESSS ! v_v
If you chose to use another template making the texts easier to read, it would be so, so much better, you know :)
The people who attack you and sanbun kyoden are stupid and intolerant.Yes his work maybe offensive but THATS the point.George Romero made a critical point of view about society by bringing flesh eating Zombies to the silver screen which is considered VERY offensive for that time.
Sanbun and many others that specialized in the cheat/rape/gangbang/incest theme made a very fruedian point about the characters and us the readers.Sanbun's story, especially Sayuki no Sato,is mostly about guilt and morality and also how the characters cope with the situation that literally throws away guilt and morality aside.So its pretty deep and SEXY.
Fayt,I salute you for bringing so many good H-stuff,so we get something to think about while fapping ^_^.
So dont give up.These petty little people can bark all they want but the show must go on.
To those that cannot stand these stories.DONT READ THEM!EVER!DONT BOTHER FAYT LEINGOLD WITH YOUR WHINING!!!
See!?Simple solution to such a complicated matter.
having been one of the people who talked about Sanbun I can say, it's not him in general it was that particular story. I personally feel he's better suited to full volumes rather then one-shots. also I completely agree with you on the Oyster stuff, its just this side of loli-guro(now guro's some shit I just don't understand how you can fap to). if anything I was more disappointed in the story then anything, as someone who's looking forward to Azure Sky & Sayuki and keeps Sougetsu on his hd and as a fan I think I'm entitled to express my opinion of something I feel is beneath his usual efforts....
ALL I have to say is keep up the good word and put those people on ignore. You have the right to do whatever you feel like and if they dont like Sanbun Kyoden wonderfully GOOD ends then they should go elsewhere
I don't see the problem with artists like Sanbun. Why read it if it offends you. The real problem is because of these fake morality-knights that several sites have already had to shut down, or had their content removed from d/l-sites. Just because somewhere someone doesn't know how to shield his/her computer from minors accessing adult sites. Over here we have a saying which translates like this: "Improve the world, start with yourself" So my idea is that those people start with leaving adult sites alone and first ask themselves what they were doing there in the first place.
I liked it but I also have to agree that it seemed rush, but its a one-shot so that's not surprising. I liked it either way, that's why I commissioned it. I'm not gonna get into the whole Sanbun bashing because honesty its stupid. If you don't like his stuff, don't read it. Its a simple concept. Apparently some people don't understand the concept of escapism that's involved in fiction. Sad really.
I feel the same about you Fayt. I would have no problems about others ranting about Sanbun but I see no need for them to repeat it over and over and over.
The statement I frown at the most is the "Sanbun must hate women irl etc. etc.". I take it you all played Gibo at a certain point? See what I did here?
I think they associate themselves too much as the victim. While in rape, the victim is usually a girl...Like how most people won't read a futanari where a male gets fucked in the ass but don't mind reading a futanari where a guy is fucking the futanari...:D
But seriously, if you don't like a genre, don't read it. That's why posts have tags and summary so people can know what they're getting into....:D
It all depends what your fetish is and what youre looking for in a dojin. Some people like Guro, some like Loli. Some like good clean artwork, some like realistic looking drawings. Some like a cookie-cutter story that gets straight in on the action, some like well developed backgrounds to characters with an original scenario. Some like Xray and Nakadashi, some prefer handjobs and tittyfucks. Tomayto Tomarto.
Yes, I like NTR especially partner stealing ones like Yamatogawa's "Imp", Shiwasu no Okina's "My wife is a high school girl" and Takeda Hiromitsu's "Oshiea Ai". But guess what, my best friend IRL has had his (now ex)wife cheat on him in this way and it has wrecked his life and his little girl's too so I would never do something like this myself. Doesnt mean I dont get turned on by it in the hentai world. Theres plenty of scenario's and genres out there so lets agree to disagree on whats best and be constructive in our criticisms, or at the very least tolerant of others' kinks.
Hate the antagonist, not the writer.
@Oliver
Isn't the text gray?
Also, I wouldn't be suprised if some of the people bitching about Sanbun merely don't like the fact that you seem to give priority to his work, but this new policy of yours should help that at least to some degree (as there will still be the fukkin trolls bitching).
eh people rant if they dont like something, its natur. but if their actually getting really depressed from reading ntr stuff then they need to take chill and remember its ink and paper. (and maybe a slightly more active life)
@Oliver
Lol, I actually appreciate that info, I didn't realize that I have one of the talkative hentai blogs out there. Good to know. As for the font issue, I'll change it to white, which should hopefully help you lol.
To everyone. My beef really is just when people talk shit about the artist, I don't really care if people hate the story or the characters, that's actually perfectly fine to do. It's only when people start talking shit about Sanbun which I find just sad.
Great post. I personally feel that Sanbun's works are great, especially its artwork. When it comes to hentai, Sanbun really does make beautiful and sexy characters. I thank you for working on his works and hope you continue doing such a great job. If people don't like it, then don't read it, that's all there is to it.
To each their own I say. If you don't like it, don't read it. Personally I try avoid anything NTR and/or rape because my best friend's wife cheated on him and the effects on his life almost mirrored the 1 Sanbun that I did read before I knew his style. Also had a girlfriend that was raped and experienced first hand what it's like being with someone that that went through that experience... so yeah, too close to home for my liking for a lot of H-stuff out there. I read both H and non-H manga as an escape from things that remind me of some of my day to day life. Anyone complaining should just avoid it if they already know it'll upset them enough to rant about it.
Alfred Kinsey and Larry Flynt. I give you names of those two to think about.
You are translating stuff (which i appreciate a lot) for westerners mainly (i assume). So dont make false assumptions about our culture. The simple fact Sanbun and his stories exist is an issue here. IF one hates sthg, one must destroy it. Simple as that. Not reading is not enough.
Being lenient and being tolerant are two things often confused.
But lets cut the crap - Sanbun is in my oppinion not suited for OneShots.
Thx for your hard work anyway.
I must admit that I am one of the ones who usually thinks to myself "How can someone fap to this shit?", but I have to admit that some of the stuff *I* like would make other people scream and run away. I just try and keep my mouth shut, avoid the stuff I know I don't like, and wait for Fayt to translate something I can enjoy. I would never want Fayt to stop translating the NTR stuff, because I don't like censorship in any form. Fayt has every right to translate NTR stuff if he wants and if you can't deal with it, go find another blog to leech stuff from.
Sanbun Kyoden is my hero. I get a kick out of all the negative comments his stories generate. As for myself, I have yet to read a story of his that I didn't like. Actually, I have yet to read a story of any genre (obvious exception being Yaoi) that I haven't enjoyed reading.
We just gotta remember one simple thing. For every person who wants Sanbun to die or something stupid like that, there's always a person wishing he would live forever and continue to write his special brand of stories forever lol.
Fayt, you're doing us a great service by providing Sanbun's work and I'll always look forward to your next releases (of any artist).
whats ntr?
Haborym said:
whats ntr?
http://ragemanga.wordpress.com/definitions-ntr-%E5%AF%9D%E5%8F%96%E3%82%89%E3%82%8C/
don't even waste your time of those idiots, Most of us thank you for your work and I love sanbun kyoden's stuff. Keep it up. You and sanbun rocks.
WHAT! Man they get free hentai and are still picky? geeezzzz
That is like giving 50cents to a bum and they throw it back at you cuz they only take dollars.
I love Sanbun!
Wish they made it to animation.
I love his style, story, how they always end up loving it in the end. Thats the only way to fap.
I just have one thing to say:
I love Sanbun's works, and I'm really grateful to you Fayt for translating them so frequently.
Keep up the good work man, you're the best!!!
I fucking love all of Sanbun Kyoden's stuff, and I'm really glad you've done as much of his stuff as you have already.
Whenever you give anything away for free there will always be douche bags to bitch about it. To those douche bags: FL is throwing you a bone by letting you download this shit for free. Eat your fucking bone or shut the fuck up and move on. Don't ruin it for the rest of us.
I obviously like Kyoden's works(not all of them, only those where there's bestiality, straight-shota or extreme NTR). I have to disagree though with all the people who're saying that this is obviously just stupid fiction. It's a lot more close to reality than you think. Sure, not the timing(this was accelerated because it was a one-shot). But leave your girlfriend or mother in an island together with a good-looking man long enough and she'll end up fucking him. That's for sure! Leave your girlfriend or mother with a guy who knows what he's doing, and they'll end up fucking together. It's not a 100% probability, but I'd say we're at a good 85%. It never happened to me, just because: 1) I don't know it actually happened, 2) It didn't happen by pure chance. I don't have any problems with it, because I like the whore-to-the-core kind of women, but this is reality. Even bestiality isn't so uncommon among women(men who do bestiality should just be head-shot!).
Anyway, to anyone who is complaining: Fuck you!
i dont realy like ntr stuff except "justice ntr". and i only like some of sanbun's work that have good end (enjoy hiro, suna no kusari, readiness) but i still can fapping with some other sanbun's work that i dont like its story :p coz his artstyle
BTW, is this all ruckus happened just because one-shot story? i honnestly dont like its story, but i still can fapping (you know why)
"And just to let you all know, the NTR genre is a minority compared to all the other stuff out there. I also find it funny that people get so emotional on his works. Just Wow."
It's because RAGE is an emotion that is quick to flare up. And those that aren't turned on by it, hate it.
totally agree with you, hell if he writes stuff that is that believable they should praise him rather than being assholes
>Don't Hate The Player, Hate The Game.
>Hate The Game
>The Game
Really guys, 28 comments and nobody point it out yet?
Okay, Fayt.
I find that the most alarming part of all of this is that it has managed to damage your calm. It's the internet, brother. People are selfish, short-sighted and forgetful of the fact that there are those who might feel differently than themselves, and that you're actually working to bring something you like to others who might share your enjoyment, while all they can do is bash and deride (and in some cases painfully exaggerate).
NTR has more haters than youtube. The betrayal aspect really seems to strike a note with most people, it's just not for certain whether it will be a negative or positive one. While I'm not sure that the ratio is exactly 1:1, Afro was right about there being people who want it as well as those who would rather it never cross their path. Try to keep in mind which side you're reaching out to.
I don't have much love for the genre myself. It makes me feel dirty more often than not. But I've got mad love for FL and all that he's doing. And who knows, maybe the NTR story I'll really enjoy is coming along and I'll find out because you translated it and put it out there.
Remember the compliments and forget the insults, man. To you and those you give a damn about. And above all, keep up the good work.
the title should be " Don't Hate The Player, neither the game. Hate your weak mental capacity, faggot. "
They surf for H, and can't tolerate this? They should go back to their wonderful flawless worlds then.
personally i like a decent ending & its one of the reason why i dont like snabun. plus theres almost no incest in it either. looks like theres going to be incest but there is one. ?yama hare? or something the title was where the mother has sex with the sons classmate whos an idiot. I mean that wouldve been a good story to have some incest in & have it end with her going to the other guy at the end like my sister by distance where the guy has sex with the sister but she ends up with the bear guy. something like that i wouldnt mind rather than "yes im a whore, ill leave me family, they mean nothing to me. I want your cock, defile me, give me your baby, ippai ippai!!!" crap. so you can see why some people like me dont like it. hell i hate tatoeba haha ga but i fap almost daily to that shit now because of its ending. i hated it when i read vol 1 but i found there were more vols & read all the raws & was pretty happy how it ended compared to vol 1.
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